minimum viv size for a bosc

[rizz]

when our bosc is an adult could he go in a 5x2x2ft viv?
what would you say is the minimum size?

[Tom]

say yes, but it just depends on how big he gets to be honest..
i know people who have kept them in that size, but they allow the bosc, or there bigger lizards a good roam around the house to get exercise.

[rizz]

yeah we are gona let him roam when were there which is all the time lol
someone on the dreaded forum said 8x3x3 minimum!!!

[Khanidge]

yeah we are gona let him roam when were there which is all the time lol
someone on the dreaded forum said 8x3x3 minimum!!!

A little excessive, but unlike most snakes they need more depth to the viv so a 5'L x 2.5'/3'D x 2'H should see him/her through the most of there life.

As Tom said let him/her get some exercise by letting them out for a stroll.

The Boscs dont generally get as big as the White throut (sp), Who can get Massive that will need a room viv as an adult.

[leebrett]

we are going with the 5 by 3 by 2 would go bigger but only prob is it wont go through front door lol
he will have free roam aswell when we are here so not exactly like he wont have ne room :)

[sazzleNrobby]

our baby bosc is currently in a 4ftx2ftx2ft viv but we wont be going much bigger when he's adult... like has been said, as long as he can roam around should be ok x

[leebrett]

ya most time he will have whole liveing room 2 him self and go in and out his viv as he pleases. anyone no can they be toilet trained dont want him 2 crap on my bed lol

[mika]

To be honest bigger the better! Mines around 18months old and I'm just moving up to a 5ft viv... He spent his life in a 4ft viv, but the rate he's growing I'm not sure a 5ft viv will do him the rest of his life. Mine seems a bit fed up in a small viv not enough places for him to investigate and dig! Also have quite a tall viv so u can get atleast 4inches of substrate as they like to burrow.
It's all fair and well saying that they will have free roam (well atleast be able to take my eyes of him for more than 10seconds! Lol!)but he will still need to be a fairly large size before I would let him do that They have a nack of squeezing in small spaces, also depends how well they tame down. So prepare for a large viv!
You can toilet train them it works quite well! Youl find he will poo in the same places, when he does put a bit of kitchen roll where he poos and he will associate this as his toilet then he should poo where ever the tissue is.
Mine has learnt to either poo in a white tray outside the viv or in the bath, he will never go in his viv.
Good luck!

[leebrett]

well his pretty much hatchlin size at the moment in a 3x2 so if he gets 2 big for the 5x3x2 could get a new one i spose only problem is one of the dimensions has got 2 be 2 other wise it aint getting in my front door ! lol i think he will be fine in it though. i never really seen a full size adult before so cant tell...

[mika]

Yeah I know your problem that's why I'm gonna go for the flat pack option lol! Il be stuffed if i have to move wnt b able to get it out the door! Lol!
But the viv sounds a good size! Youl be a long way off before he's to big for the 5x3x2 if he grows that big!! Yeah don't see many fully grown adults there must be some out there! The only 2 adults I've seen one was huge and the other average sorta size!
Hope mine will grow huge!! Bigger the better lol!!

[leebrett]

i remember reading that there average age in captivity in the us is 1 mind you dont really agree with americans on the way they keep there animals feed them ect seen loads of horible videos of them on you tube.
was looking at flat packs the other day biggest i could find was 4x2x2. not evan sure if a 5x3x2 will get through the door. got 2 measure it out and think about it. either that or get it airlifted thru my window lol

[Khanidge]

i remember reading that there average age in captivity in the us is 1 mind you dont really agree with americans on the way they keep there animals feed them ect seen loads of horible videos of them on you tube.
was looking at flat packs the other day biggest i could find was 4x2x2. not evan sure if a 5x3x2 will get through the door. got 2 measure it out and think about it. either that or get it airlifted thru my window lol

If a 4x2x2 will fit through your door then a 5x3x2 will also fit..
Rob can get custom made flat packs if you like.
Or I could price one up for you as I'm a Carpenter/joiner :thank_you2:

[Rob]

I can get flat packs up to 9x3x3

[leebrett]

lol thats that problem sorted than.
We are getting it at the end of the month :)

[tristis]

when our bosc is an adult could he go in a 5x2x2ft viv?
what would you say is the minimum size?.................. Considering that a Savannah monitor can reach 4ft in length a 5x2x2 viv would not even allow the animal to turn around let alone move much at all. That size cage would only work for a hatchling till he is about 2ft. The recommended minimum enclsure size for an adult Savannah monitor is 8x4x4.

I put this care sheet together a while back for another forum, so im im just gona copy paste it here for you.

Here is a check list of what you need to properly care for a SINGLE Sav. Keep in mind these are MINIMUM requirements.

1: A water proof solid topped 8 x 4 x 4 enclosure for an adult and about half that for a juvie.

2: 2 feet or more of a nice moist dig able soil is best. You can buy top soil and play sand from home depot or any garden center and mix it in about a 50/50 ratio. Your going to have to get your hands dirty to find the right amount of water to add. You want it to make a dirt ball in your hand but still fall apart when you poke it with your finger. Cypress mulch is a very, very distant second since it will not hold a burrow but will retain a good amount of moisture . It is NEVER recommended for females. For females you should ALWAYS use a dirt mix. The importance of proper substrate can not be stressed enough.

3: A 130F+ MINIMUM basking spot (Realize we are NOT talking about air temps. We are talking about the temp. of a SPOT in the cage. In this case a raised plywood board. This can be provided with a single or couple of 45 watt halogen FLOOD lights suspended about 8"-12" over an elevated wood "Retes" stack (Named after the great Frank Retes of the Goanna Ranch) like in these pics
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u161/jayhardcore/DSC05286-1.jpg
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u161/jayhardcore/Picture345.jpg
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u161/jayhardcore/Picture369.jpg

That juvie Sav is basking on a surface temp. of over 150F!!!!!look!!!!
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u161/jayhardcore/Picture371.jpg


4: Air temps ranging from 85F or so on the warm end down to 70F on the cool. The best part is in a solid topped water proof cage with that nice dirt in it, all the heating(basking and ambient air temps) can be achieved with just the basking flood lamps (ha ha! To the guy using that 150 watt what ever, with the screen lid and still cant get the right temps and humidity!). In a setup like this your basking lights can be run 24/7 for providing heat and basking opportunity's on the monitors schedule not yours. All in all the total temp range should be from 130F+ down to 70F+

Here is a pic of a raise up cage of mine
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u161/jayhardcore/30796_view.jpg

Its 4’x2’x2’ and is constructed of melamine way over sealed with poly. and silicone. The top is plexi. The substrate is a foot of topsoil/playsand and all heat is provided by one 45watt halogen flood set to provide a basking temp. of 125F.

This pic shows very clearly the benefits of using deep dirt as a substrate
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u161/jayhardcore/Picture370-1.jpg

Now this adult male savannah monitor setup
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u161/jayhardcore/DSC05104.jpg
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u161/jayhardcore/DSC05242.jpg
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u161/jayhardcore/DSC05160.jpg

It is made from 2x4’s and plywood sealed with linoleum sheeting and LOTS of silicon. Its 7’x4’x4’ and the hinged top is plywood with plexi cut outs. Heating is done with three 60 watt floods run through rheostats for one basking spot set to 155F and a second basking spot of 130F and a 3rd basking spot set at 120. The substrate in the pics 200lbs of topsoil, 200lbs of playsand and 200lbs of cypress mulch all topped of with some leaf litter. Again these are minimum requirements. When keeping varanids bigger caging and more choices for the lizard is always best.

[MrDimmu]

Great care sheet and guide to housing you done there :)

[RuncornReptiles]

A+ care info bud. great looking setup aswel