dunny1

I seen on another thread about first aid 4 venomous reptile bites. has any1 had bad experiences with rear fanged snakes? i keep these but have never been bitten. i know one day though the inevitable will happen and i will get tagged. how do u know if ur having a bad reaction though? how long would u have to fone 4 medical help? how long does it take b4 its to late? ive been trying to get info on this but have had no luck. the only way to know ur allergic is to get bit. im not sensitive to bee stings but all venom is different. so after uve been bit what are the symptoms of a bad bite? when do u know ur in big trouble and need the ambulance? there has to b a time limit from when u get bit to the reaction to needing an ambulance.i know the bite swells and is sore and bruses.stuff like that but when do u say right i need help? i think this would b good to know 4 others.if any1 out there has had or knows sum1 who's has needed help. ur feed back would b appreciated.

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1 Common boa (Boa constrictor) 1 Western diamondback rattlesnake (Crotalus atrox) 1 Red spitting cobra (Naja pallida) 1 Monocled cobra (Naja kaouthia)

TyMilsom

With a Boiga bite you shouldnt need to take the well documented KYAG position, as you would with some of the Elapids for example.

dunny1

kyag possition?

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1 Common boa (Boa constrictor) 1 Western diamondback rattlesnake (Crotalus atrox) 1 Red spitting cobra (Naja pallida) 1 Monocled cobra (Naja kaouthia)

myball123

Know you're a goner perhaps LOL

jo x

now come on Ty do explain kyag position to everyone pmsl

TyMilsom

Well in Elapid husbandry, there are inherant risks, particularly with Taipans and some of the other Australian/NG species. In this situation it is best, in the event of an envenomation to adopt the KYAG position as a last resort.

So what is the KYAG position:

International guidelines are as follows:

1) Lean forward so that the head extends beyond the body at a 90 degree angle
2) Place right hand on right knee
3) Place left hand on left knee
4) Take a squat position, bending the legs.
5) Bring head down as far as possible
6) Kiss Yer Ass Goodbye!

jo x

pmsl i though u was dead serious when you told me what it was so intrested till ur last ickle comment

TyMilsom

Jo, dont mock serious medical emergency protocol!

pmsl

dunny1

i think il just wait and see when a bite happens and take it from there lol.

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1 Common boa (Boa constrictor) 1 Western diamondback rattlesnake (Crotalus atrox) 1 Red spitting cobra (Naja pallida) 1 Monocled cobra (Naja kaouthia)

TyMilsom

Ok....

We dont know about the effects of all rear fanged species, so should always be cautious. Generally I wouldnt be too worried about Boiga species...but better to be safe than sorry, so handle with caution. In the event of a good bite, i would sit down and see if any symptoms occur whatsoever. If they did, i would go to hospital immediately just to be safe. If not, then clean the wound and sanatise.

Another possible problem is that of amphlaxis, but this is quite rare...symptoms include an ichy scalp. In the even of any amphlaxis symptoms i would ring an ambulance immediately. This is worth reading http://www.findmeareptile.co.uk/croc...formation.html

NB: THESE ARE MY VIEWS ONLY! I AM NOT A MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL>